Balkan kamp

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Zdravo svima!

Da iskoristim(o) novogodišnju euforiju, hehe, otvorio bih diskusiju oko organizaije Balkan kampa.

Daklem, meni se čini kako su okolnosti i uvjeti dovoljno sazrijeli za organizaciju većeg Drupal eventa na ovim našim prostorima.

Zaista bi bilo dobro da svatko iznese svoju (ili grupnu) viziju kako / gdje / kada bi to organizirali, pa da krenemo u realizaciju.

Moja lična vizija je da u samoj organizaciji sudjeluju članovi svih ex-yu Drupal zajednica, ali da za kamp bude odgovorna ona zajednica koja je host.

Sudjelovajne ostalih zajednica bi se temeljilo na:
* Pripremanju izlaganja / predavanja (na naškim jezicima - time dajemo veći fokus lokalnom)
* Traženju / lobiranju kod sponzora
* Ostalim zaduženjima koja se dogovore

Iskreno nemam pojma koji bi bio OK datum, peti mjesec? Ili deseti? I da li je uopće moguće organizirati nešto u maju ove godine - s obzirom koliko je vremena preostalo?

Također smatram kako bi bilo najbolje da prvi kamp bude kod vas u RS (BG, NS?). Poslije Zagreb ili Sarajevo, pa sve ispočetka do kraja svijeta. :)

DrupaHR grupni stav još nije formiran, imamo druženje sada 7.1. pa ćemo se poslije toga nadam se usuglasiti, a do tada možda i ovdje postignemo neki konsenzus.

Cimnuo sam Peru C. @ http://drupal-bh.ba/ - nadam se da će se javiti...

Čitamo se...

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Ideja je sasvim OK, da se raspodele odgovornosti za organizovanje Drupal kampa. Mada mislim da je maj, peti mesec, preran. CroDrupal još, kako kažeš, nije ustoličen, treba videti u kakvom su raspoloženju bošnjaci, dok se okreneš, maj je već stigao.

Treba računati na jesen. Globalno je zagrevanje, vreme će biti lepo, zajedno možemo napraviti dobru kolekciju tema, u junu najaviti event, da mogu doći i ostali iz šireg regiona (Rumuni su nam obećali da dolaze). Drupaldžije Srbije mogu biti prvi host, pa da krenemo da pravimo tradiciju.

Hajde da sačekamo da i bošnjaci kažu nešto, pa da vidimo na čemu smo. Jel zna neko neke kolege iz Dežele? Makedonije? Da li da uopšte razmišljamo malo šire?

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Može, čekamo još feedbacka, da, meni se čini isto OK jesen, taman.

Dežela = Slovenija? ;)
Čini se da su organizirani, a ima nekoga i u Prištini...probam ostvariti kontakt...

Možda ne bi bilo loše razmišljati malo šire, pogotovo u kontekstu da se ne poklopimo s nekim kampovima u susjedstvu..recimo ne bi trebali niti Mađare zanemariti, oni imaju jaku zajednicu...ali to možda u fazi kada definiramo neke stvari, ne odmah u početku...

E da, a event bi mogli nazvati: Drupal BalCamp :D

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Pozdrav Mario,

Ideja mi se svidja i ja sam za :)

Sto se termina tice, mislim da je maj bas prerano. DrupalCon u Londonu ce biti od 21 do 26 avgusta, tako da mislim da je dobar termin za drupalcamp balkan druga polovina septembra ili pocetak oktobra.

E da, a event bi mogli nazvati: Drupal BalCamp :D

vrh :)

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Pozdrav Balkan!

U Sloveniji smo počeli sa formiranjem communityja posle Copenhagena. Prvo okupljanje smo imali sredinom septembra a drugo sredinom novembra. U petak imamo release party u Ljubljani. Na okupljanjima communityja nas ima za sad oko 20.

Za sad mogu da kažem lično za sebe, da sam jako zainteresovan za suradnju sa ostalim Drupal organizacija na Balkanu. Naravno nema razloga da ostali članovi Slovenačkog communityja ne misle isto, ali za sad nismo niša pričali o tome.

Pozdrav iz Portoroža,

janez

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Moja podrška u ovom događaju se podrazumeva ;)

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Racunajte i na moju podrsku!

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BalCamp FTW!

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Hi,

I am Gent from Prishtina, Kosovo. Part of soever Drupal community in Kosovo. We're interested to participate.

I would like to let you know that Croatia,Montenegro,Macedonia is an option for us because we can't come in Serbia.

Also can you please use english for the planning so every one can participate like USA and Greece!

Thanks,
Gent

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Pa već si u Srbiji!

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I would like to let you know that Croatia,Montenegro,Macedonia is an option for us because we can't come in Serbia.

A ovaj sto ako mogu da pitam? Jel to znaci da za ljude iz Srbije nije opcija da recimo idu na Kosovo ili Albaniju???

Also can you please use english for the planning so every one can participate like USA and Greece!

Ajde da razumem Grcka, ali gde nadje USA, majke ti...

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Da se razumemo, Srbi nemaju ništa protiv Albanaca iz Albanije kao ni protiv Albanaca sa Kosova. Ovde su dobro došli svi ljudi dobrih namera i dobrog raspoloženja. Isto tako, svako dobrih namera i dobrog raspoloženja može da dođe u Srbiju u goste.

Ne vidim razlog zašto ti iz Prištine ne bi mogao da dođeš u Beograd na Drupal Camp, pa čak i da držiš predavanje?

Ne vidim razlog zašto bi pisali na Engleskom pošto je reč o Balkan Kamp-u gde se svi narodi dobro razumeju međusobno.

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I was trying to say that we can't pass the borders with existing passports because Serbia didn't recognize our Independence.

No problem for the place, it can happen anywhere indeed.

No, we live in Prishtina, Kosovo. And we don't speak and understand Slavic languages.

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I was trying to say that we can't pass the borders with existing passports because Serbia didn't recognize our Independence.

WTF.... sorry for misunderstanding, I didn't know this, too bad.

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OK, I think that we can switch this conversation to English so other countries like Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Greece can also participate.

So, @gent how many people in Kosovo is interested for this event?

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Firstly, greetings from Ljubljana.

Secondly, thank you for switching to English :)

Also it is up to you if you wish to have the event in English or in Serbian/Croatian language, if you have two rooms it can even be mixed...

I will join my colleague Janez with interest to attend and help organizing the event. We will also give the heads up on our release party on Friday.

(I see many familiar faces in this thread from Prague and Copenhagen!)

Regards,
Iztok

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greetings for Iztok :)

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Glad you moved to English, surely I can say ~5 people actively are willing to help!

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Iztok wrote:

I see many familiar faces in this thread from Prague and Copenhagen!

Mmmmmmmmm Prague.

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Sure we can continue in English, and we can choose that language as the language for the event to come. I agree that in that way more people can participate (Romanians can't speak slavic languages, as well; Hungarians also, and they said they're interested to come).

And I am very glad that I see people from all over the Balkans joining, and at least planning to join, this interesting meetup that we intend to organise.

Gent, I was also unaware that Kosovo folk have problems crossing that border. I know for a fact that there's a group from Pristina and Mitrovica going to every Exit festival here in Novi Sad, and I think they didn't have any problems coming here. If you'd like, I could ask how are they managing to cross it with their passports.

So, for the time being we have following countries interested:

  • Serbia
  • Croatia
  • Slovenia
  • Kosovo
  • Bosnia?

We'll wait a bit for Bosnians to show up, and then start with actual planning, if you all agree?

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I agree! It is nice to see so many people giving feedback!

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We'll wait a bit for Bosnians to show up, and then start with actual planning

Don't forget somebody from Macedonia and Montenegro and then whole exYu is here :) That would be awesome.

Anyway we can start planning right now, and others can join any time later, I don't see a problem with this.

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Nikola, basically as you may know we got independent from Serbia on the 17th of February 2008. Now partially recognized.

Serbia didn't recognize Kosovo's independence and passport as well so is impossible to pass the borders *legally*. In this case Mitrovica part (North-East) isn't in total control by Kosovo's government including border and customs so that makes easier to get into Serbia but is dangerous!

Yes, it's amazing having Balkans Countries active.

I think we should setup a web site for the camp, also something like OpenAtrium for managing the project!

Thanks,
Gent

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I think we should setup a web site for the camp, also something like OpenAtrium for managing the project!

Well, before going anywhere further with additional work, I would like to know how many people exactly are willing to help in organization (and with that I do not mean only with writing comments). Organizing a DrupalCamp is a huge amount of work, and there is not many point in doing it if on the end only couple of people will do all work.

This does not mean I am thinking that this is a case for DrupalCamp Balkan idea (actually I think it will be quite opposite), and also I think that OpenAtrium is a good idea. But lets first see how many individuals and companies from Balkans are ready to step in and really help - then when we have some better idea we can start some serious planning.

I can say that me and my company will step in 100%. Others?

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I am interested in helping as I was before :)

Ivica is right, companies are so important in step to organizing Drupal Camp, and without financial support we can not organize a Drupal Camp.

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pivica wrote:
But lets first see how many individuals and companies from Balkans are ready to step in and really help - then when we have some better idea we can start some serious planning.

I can say that me and my company will step in 100%. Others?

You can count me in.

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Veliki pozdrav iz Sarajeva,

drago mi je ideja regionalnog DrupalKampa uzima maha i da se krecemo ka realizaciji. Ovo je nesto sto mi u Sarajevu vrtimo u glavi otkako smo se vratili sa pariskog DrupalCona ali smo vremenom shvatili da je za organizovanje kampa u okviru BiH jos rano jer je ovde zajednica jos prilicno u povojima i u biti je cini 3-4 aktivna covjeka mada nas po raznim grupama na d.o. i l.d.o. ima 30-ak. Dalje je na nama (meni i kolegama iz www.pauza.ba) da to okupimo, uredimo i pokrenemo kako treba. Krenula je prica sa drupalerosima iz Hrvatske o nekom regionalnom desavanju i evo nas konacno, na konkretnoj prici.

Znaci, ekipa iz Sarajeva je tu i spremna da pomogne koliko god bude moguce. To znaci da cemo sigurno spremiti neke sesije, i ostale situacije koje vec dogovorimo. Sto se tice trazenja sponzora za ovaj event, u BiH tesko da cemo naci nekoga jer ne znam kome bi bilo interesantno da sponzorira nesto sto se ne desava ovde. Jos cu da razgovaram sa drugarima iz Pauze o nasem ucescu u sponzorstvu.

Kako stvari stoje, najrealnije mjesto za odrzavanje je negdje u Srbiji, BG ili NS. najvise zbog vece i organizovanije zajednice. Naravno, ako se ekipa iz Srbije slaze :) Takodje podrzavam ideju da se svake godine odrzava u drugoj zemlji. To bi bilo odlicno a nekima bi to bila prva prilika da probaju sarajevske cevape :)

Za sada, iz BiH mozete ocekivati sigurno 5 ljudi koji bi dosli a potrudicemo se da do jeseni to bude i vise.

Sto se tice ove situacije sa engleskim jezikom, nisam siguran sta da vam kazem... mislio sam da ce ovo biti lokalni event i da ce sva prica biti na jezicima na kojim se najbolje razumijemo ali sa ovakvim razvojem situacije mislim da bi to ipak trebalo jos skontati. Naravno, nece moci biti svima potaman pa bih dao prijedlog da to za sada ostane na diskusiji dok vidimo koliko se ljudi sa strane prijavi. Ako ih bude dosta onda idemo na english, ako ne.. onda, jebiga :) smislicemo nesto.

Pretpostavljam da bi sad trebalo skuckati neki inicijalni plan pa sam nasao par korisnih linkova za organizaciju kampova na d.o.

http://groups.drupal.org/node/10437
http://drupal.org/node/247972
http://acquia.com/drupal-event-organizer-kit
http://www.archive.org/details/DrupalconDc2009-DrupalcampHowToAndQA_926

Pogledajte ovo pa hajde da organizujemo neki chat ili video konferenciju zbog lakse komunikacije. Moj skype je perkesa1 pa slobodno zadajte.

I ajde da napravimo najjaci DrupalCamp ikad!

pozdrav,
perke

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Best regards from Sarajevo,

I'm glad the idea of regional DrupalCamp is growing and moving towards implementation. This is something we in Sarajevo are having in the head since we returned from Paris Drupalcon but we eventually realized that the organization of the camp within BiH is still early because the community is still in its infancy and it seems to be 3-4 active man, although there are about 30 people at various groups at l.d.o. and d.o. SO its up to us (me and colleagues from www.pauza.ba) to gather, organize and run properly. We went with the idea of regional event to Croatian drupaleros's, and here we are, finally, organizing the whole story.

So, team from Sarajevo is here and ready to help as much as possible. This means that we will certainly have some sessions, and other situations that we already agree upon. As far as searching for sponsors for this event in BiH it would be hard to find someone because we do not know who would be interested to sponsor something that is not happening here. I will need to talk with friends at Pauza on our participation in sponsorship.

As it looks like, the most realistic place for event would be somewhere in Serbia, BG or NS. mostly due to the larger and more organized community. Of course, if a team from Serbia agrees:) I also support the idea to have DrupalCamp every year in another country. That would be awesome and for some it would be their first opportunity to try cevapi in Sarajevo:)

For now, you can certainly expect 5 people from BiH who would come and we will do our best to increase that number by the actual event.

For the situation with the English language, I'm not sure what to tell you ... I thought that this will be a local/regional event on the languages in which we understand each others best, but with this development of situation I believe we will need to think about it more thoroughly. Of course, it may not be as everyone wish so I would suggest to leave that for discussion until we see how many people from abroad will show up. If there is a lot then lets do english, if not .. then, fuck it:) We'll think of something.

I suppose now we need to come up with some initial plan, so I found a couple of useful links for the Camp organizers:

http://groups.drupal.org/node/10437
http://drupal.org/node/247972
http://acquia.com/drupal-event-organizer-kit
http://www.archive.org/details/DrupalconDc2009-DrupalcampHowToAndQA_926

Take a look at this, and let's organize some chat or video conference to facilitate communication. My skype is perkesa1 so feel free to add me.

Let's have a best DrupalCamp EVER!

cheers,
perke

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Pozdrav perke,

To bi bilo odlicno a nekima bi to bila prva prilika da probaju sarajevske cevape :)

A sta cemo mi manjinski vegetarijanci - sto se mene tice vasa krompirusa (ili ti pita sa krompirima, a ni ostale nisu za bacanje) je vrh - nema bolje na ovim prostorima :DD

Kako stvari stoje, najrealnije mjesto za odrzavanje je negdje u Srbiji, BG ili NS. najvise zbog vece i organizovanije zajednice. Naravno, ako se ekipa iz Srbije slaze :)

Hehe slazemo se ;) Ma mislim sve jedno je, ali koliko vidim generalno raspolozenje i kolega iz Hrvatske i Slovenije je isto da bude Srbija, a onda kontam da je najlogicnije da bude Beograd za prvi put.

Sto se tice ove situacije sa engleskim jezikom, nisam siguran sta da vam kazem...

A valjda sirimo demokratiju i slicne .... ;)

Elem ni meni nije najjasnije oko toga, kontam da za sada samo Iztok i gent ne sprahenzi po naski, tako da je planiranje na engleskom poprilican overhead - ako se pojavi mnogo vise ljudi sa engleskom komunikacijom onda je ok.

Ja bih sve planiranje vratio na naski (zvali ga mi hrvatskosrpski, srpskohrvatski, bosnjacki... ili kako god nije ni bitno bitno je da se kontamo) za sada. Ali u svakom slucaju eventualne sesije na buducem drupalcampu balkan bi bile visejezicne - na nasem i engleskom jeziku.

Pogledajte ovo pa hajde da organizujemo neki chat ili video konferenciju zbog lakse komunikacije. Moj skype je perkesa1 pa slobodno zadajte.

Skype je meni ok, mada ne znam za voice i video da li bi izdrzao vise od 4-5 coveka. Mozda da pokrenemo neki irc kanal drupalbalkan ili tako nesto?

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Nice to see you here, Perke.

I completely agree with you - lets make this the best camp ever! It seems that there's a lot of us, and it is just fine that Belgrade, or Novi Sad, is the first host for the event, as Mario would say: BalCamp.

We already have Atrium installation up & running here, and we can use it.

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Elem ni meni nije najjasnije oko toga, kontam da za sada samo Iztok i gent ne sprahenzi po naski, tako da je planiranje na engleskom poprilican overhead - ako se pojavi mnogo vise ljudi sa engleskom komunikacijom onda je ok.

Ja bih sve planiranje vratio na naski (zvali ga mi hrvatskosrpski, srpskohrvatski, bosnjacki... ili kako god nije ni bitno bitno je da se kontamo) za sada. Ali u svakom slucaju eventualne sesije na buducem drupalcampu balkan bi bile visejezicne - na nasem i engleskom jeziku.

Pivica said here that, so far, only Iztok and Gent aren't able to communicate in Serbian/Croatian/Bosnian language, and if they won't join organisation that we should use those languages for communication.

I got the feeling that Iztok and Gent are about to be actively enrolled and would be co-organisers (together with Serbian, Croatian and Bosnian folk). Please, correct me if I'm wrong. Because, in that case, we should continue in English.

It is my opinion that the main sessions for the Camp should be in English, with a lot of other ones in each of languages of the countries that are making Drupal Balkan Camp. But let's leave that for later, it is just an idea of mine.

Back to the pledges, I am also confirming that you can count on me 100%. I can't speak in the name of my employer, and even though I think we will get full support there. On the other hand I can guarantee that, in due time, all of my free time will be dedicated to this event of ours.

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My profession is graphic design and I can take over the whole visual identity of this event if needed.

As for the language issue, I recommend the follow scenario:
- 1 room with workshops in local language
- 1 room with guests and advance topics

This way you can be sure to attract new local members with sessions in serbian/croatian language and maybe get some passionate visitors from Europe with higher skill-set.

I remember in Prague there were workshops that seem to be interesting only to local attendees.

For organizing language you can write in croatian/serbian language, but don't be surprised if I reply in english :)

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Pivica said here that, so far, only Iztok and Gent aren't able to communicate in Serbian/Croatian/Bosnian language

And how many of us are speaking b/c/s language that are willing to step in active organisation? If only 2 people are speaking English and I don't know but maybe 20-30 of us are speaking bcs languages then? And this is not political question it is simply practical one.

and if they won't join organisation that we should use those languages for communication.

Well I don't know for Gent but I don't think that Iztok will have any problem. Of course if we switch to bcs combination, when there are topics that needs to be discussed with two of them then sure we will talk on English. And yes if more people come that are speaking English then I don't see a problem of partially or completely switching to Eng.

It is my opinion that the main sessions for the Camp should be in English, with a lot of other ones in each of languages of the countries that are making Drupal Balkan Camp. But let's leave that for later, it is just an idea of mine.

I disagree. I think that main sessions should be on English and bcs languages, so I am proposing a mix. Side sessions should be on any language that session author wants to give - English or bcs.

I mean this should be DrupalCamp Balkan - I guess main purpose is lot of fun, hanging out, meeting new people and friends and I guess spreading a word about Drupal on ex-yu area. If majority of people that will come speaks bcs (and don't forget that one of the important things is to attract new local people, from exyu area, and business).
What I am trying to say, lets find some middle ground, according to number of people that are currently present and projections how many people that are speaking English will come. So I am against that everything should be on English, but also that everything should be on bcs.

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Podrzavam ideju. Racunajte na moju podrsku!

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Pozdrav svima koji su se ukljucili u ovu diskusiju.
Lepo je videti odziv i saradnju ljudi iz bivse jugoslavije.

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I'm not sure why organizing in English is a problem.
It's the language of Drupal, and we do use it for every other conference / camp.

As for the camp itself, having sessions in both languages would be good for both speakers and visitors.
I know there are people (like Robert Douglass) who support local camps and usually visit them, but presenting them sessions in serbian kinda defeats the purpose :P

We can have coffee on DrupalDevDays in Brussels, and discuss this topic, if you guys are attending.

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I'm not sure why organizing in English is a problem.

I think that we are discussing what language should we use internally - for our own internal organization. Everything else, from sessions to main drupalcamp balkan should be on two languages english and our own.

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bojanz wrote:
We can have coffee on DrupalDevDays in Brussels, and discuss this topic, if you guys are attending.

This is a great idea! I think some of us from Slovenia will be there...

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I think that we are discussing what language should we use internally - for our own internal organization. Everything else, from sessions to main drupalcamp balkan should be on two languages english and our own.

Yes, I understood that. I was just giving my opinion that defaulting to English is not necessarily a bad thing, regardless of the number of people who don't understand serbo-croatian.

Anyway, I don't want to steer the conversation in the wrong direction, especially since I probably won't play a big part in organizing this (all depending on the date, of course)

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I guess we all agreed, so far, to be multilingual.

As long as we have enough presentations in English we'll be just fine.

And, as Ivica said, core organizing team is mostly bhs, than we'd communicate in bhs.

Shall we go and try to set some oriental dates?

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pozdrav svima, evo i mene :)

hi to everyone

@pivica: stvar je u tome da imamo nekog ko ne prica naski pa bi bilo ok od nas da pricamo engleski kako se oni ne bi osjecali zapostavljeni. mislim da nam je to vaznije od prakticnosti. isto kao sto bi se ti osjecao zapostavljen da u sarajevu svi odemo kod zelje na cevape jer svi jedemo cevape osim tebe pa se ti snadji. eto, zato mislim da je ok da pricamo na engleskom.

ok, now i will write in english :)
i think that some mass chat or talk will be fine like next step in comunication. but before that every group should be decide about their aims and goals of camp. than we will manage aims and goals of our camp and than everything is more easier :)

@gent: do you know people from FLOSK? maybe they would be interested too

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isto kao sto bi se ti osjecao zapostavljen da u sarajevu svi odemo kod zelje na cevape jer svi jedemo cevape osim tebe pa se ti snadji.

paaa recimo da bih mesto cevapa, narucio peceni krompir sa domacim kajmakom i to ukombinovao sa jos necim ;)

anyway ja jedino kazem da ako samo bude 1-2 ljudi koji ne sprahenzi nasi, koji je problem da onda interno uglavnom komuniciramo po naski a kad vec bas zatreba da se prebacimo na englesi?

ali na kraju sve mi je jedno ako ste svi zapeli za englesi nije frka perswitchovacu se ja, no frks

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Hi,

Well I followed the discussion, and read every post. The reasons why I pointed you you/we should turn the discussion to English is because some countries that don't speak Slavic languages and for anyone from outside countries contributors with interest in Drupal because this discussion is document which tells the process of the organization of the camp, even if it's impossible for us to understand we don't want to cause problems just because we can't but I think it's important, though!

@perogabud, basically I am from FLOSSK, and Drupal is one of our projects. ~10 active members including me of the non-profit are happy to hear and are willing to contribute on the camp!

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pivica wrote:
paaa recimo da bih mesto cevapa, narucio peceni krompir sa domacim kajmakom i to ukombinovao sa jos necim ;)

au, konobar bi te samo pogledao :) u sarajevu kod zelje mozes narucit samo cevape. nema tu krumpira, samo luk ;)

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I'm so glad that BalCamp idea is making progress. :)

So, to summarize some things:

1) Language of the Drupal BalCamp sessions should be absolutely mix of English ("...according to number of people that are currently present and projections how many people that are speaking English will come.") and other Slavic languages + maybe Albanian or Slovenian (again "...according to number of people that are currently present and projections how many people that are speaking..." those languages will come).
Language for our internal organization could be set based on groups - e.g. if group responsible for finance part have member that don't understand Slavic languages, then group will write / speak on English - so, internal language should be set up based on needs. And all groups should post their progress / results on English - understandable by all members.

2) Country / Town - as I can see, most folks are OK to be Serbia / Belgrade, right?
I'm so sorry for Kosovo issue, maybe we could do some lobbying on that issue - and achieve something before Drupal BalCamp - or maybe things will change any way till autumn...

3) Date - October? Beginning or end?

4) Local groups - for now all of us mostly speak for ourselves - like Pero G. said, we need to bring some group momentum. ;) I can see that Serbia group will have meeting today, we at Zagreb will meet this weekend and discuss about camp...

5) Companies / sponsors / finance stuff - this is something that I don't know much about, like how much money do we need and for what..for instance, when we will be organizing camp @ Zagreb we will try to use as much as possible academic (and government?) facilities...don't know what situation is in Serbia regarding this issue...?

6) Internal tool / web site for communication & organization - To early for that?

So, personally I will try to help as much as I can (networking, PR, evangelizing BalCamp idea in Croatia...), also will make presentation (probably on Croatian) about some interested Drupal topic for camp...

Cheers ppl. :)

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... I can see that Serbia group will have meeting today, we at Zagreb will meet this weekend and discuss about camp ...

Small correction... I think what Mario wanted to say is that he saw today about Drupal Serbia meetup which will be next month on February 5.

And one suggestion about camp name... BalCamp is great and I like it, but I think that is wrong according to other camp names (I was looking for official camp naming convention, but without results)... Maybe we should name it "DrupalCamp Balkan 2011"?

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el22or wrote:
Small correction... I think what Mario wanted to say is that he saw today about Drupal Serbia meetup which will be next month on February 5.

Yup, event creation date (Petak, 14.01.2011) obviously confused me! :D

el22or wrote:
And one suggestion about camp name... BalCamp is great and I like it, but I think that is wrong according to other camp names (I was looking for official camp naming convention, but without results)... Maybe we should name it "DrupalCamp Balkan 2011"?

Hmmm, I'm aware of the convention (did lookup myself), but, maybe we could use it like alias or second name or something more unofficial?

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Iztok showed me today this http://drupal.org/project/cod maybe would help...

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we should definitely use COD distro for this event, it became standard for all drupal-related events.

as for the name, i would stay with convention but with extra twist :) .. so "DrupalCamp Balkan - BalCamp" sounds like we satisfy both formal and non-formal sides

also, me and my friend & colleague from Pauza, Haris, will probably be in Belgrade during the drupal.rs meetup on Feb 5th. Would be great to meet you all and to get on the planning together. If any of the croatian/slovenian drupalistas can stop by that would be awesome. Hope they serve cold beer in Kolacic ;)

(if you know of any decent hotel/motel/apt to rent, close to the place of meetup, let me know, please)

@pivica, no worries, there is plenty of food for us vegetarians, too ;)

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Perke, beers are served, not to worry about that ;)

On the other hand, we'll be meeting soon, on the fifth, and we will actively discuss everything pointed out here, and I'll let you know what's going on.

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Unfortunately, my situation got complicated so I won't make it on the meetup this saturday. I'll see you guys next time... good luck and have fun

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el22or wrote:
Iztok showed me today this http://drupal.org/project/cod maybe would help...

There is also Acquia podcast about COD.

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Anyone at #fosdem to discuss, i am #fedora booth most of time.

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Podrzavam dogadjaj vrlo rado :) Visejezicnost sasvim ok resenje.
Supporting event very gladly. Multilingual solution seems just fine.

ziveli ...
chears

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Hi from Greece. I think that DrupalCamp Balkan is a great idea and it would be my pleasure to help.

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At the 6th Drupal Serbia meeting, several goals have been created:

  1. Register a Drupal Serbia Association until the end of the March
    (more about this on next meetup).
  2. Create a camp website until 1. July 2011.
  3. Open session registration between 1. July 2011. and 1. August 2011.
  4. Session selection (voting) between 1. August 2011. and 1. September 2011.
    (at least one month before camp).
  5. Camp start at first weekend (1-2) or second weekend (8-9) in October
    (depends on other influences).
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Organizacija u kojoj radim, bi rado pomogla u promovisanju inicijative sa pisanjem i reklamiranjem ka clanicama i pratnerskim organizacijama, razmenom bannera i sl. Ali ako imate ideju kako bi jos mogli pomoci, pisite.

Organisation in witch i work, will gladly help  in promotion of camp event, with writing news articles, banner exchange with our partnes, etc. If you have an idea extra, write please..

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el22or wrote:

At the 6th Drupal Serbia meeting, several goals have been created:

  1. Register a Drupal Serbia Association until the end of the March
    (more about this on next meetup).
  2. Create a camp website until 1. July 2011.
  3. Open session registration between 1. July 2011. and 1. August 2011.
  4. Session selection (voting) between 1. August 2011. and 1. September 2011.
    (at least one month before camp).
  5. Camp start at first weekend (1-2) or second weekend (8-9) in October
    (depends on other influences).

timing looks great, good job guys

is the registration of association required in order to pull this off?
we might need to do the same when the time comes :)

any ideas about venue? if we can't get Arena I believe Sava centar should do it :)

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is the registration of association required in order to pull this off?
we might need to do the same when the time comes :)

Yes, it's required.

any ideas about venue? if we can't get Arena I believe Sava centar should do it :)

It's too early to know that info...
Maybe will not be held in Belgrade at all :)

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It's too early to know that info...
Maybe will not be held in Belgrade at all :)

Yes on last meeting majority of people (but there were not too many of us, maybe 10 or less?) there were for Novi Sad - it is less expensive, etc etc...

Personally it is all the same for me, but I would like to know opinion of other peoples that are planning to come - Belgrade or Novi Sad, what would you prefer more?

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I vote for Novi Sad.

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pivica wrote:
It's too early to know that info...
Maybe will not be held in Belgrade at all :)

Yes on last meeting majority of people (but there were not too many of us, maybe 10 or less?) there were for Novi Sad - it is less expensive, etc etc...

Personally it is all the same for me, but I would like to know opinion of other peoples that are planning to come - Belgrade or Novi Sad, what would you prefer more?

i don't really have any preferences, whatever is easier for people organizing camp.
If you think that NS would be better choice, let it be so.

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Pozdrav svima,
mali update što se tiče samog naziva događaja.
Drupal Srbija ekipa je imala početnu ideju da se događaj zove Balcamp međutim iz DA su nam dali hint da bi prikladnije bilo nazvati ga Balkan DrupalCamp ili možda čak Balkan Drupal Summit.
Ako neko ima neke primedbe ili možda neki predlog neka podeli sa ostalima ovde.
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Hi Everybody,
update regarding event title.
Drupal Serbia crew initially wanted to name the event Balcamp but we received a hint from DA that it would be more appropriate to name it Balkan DrupalCamp or maybe Balkan Drupal Summit.
If somene has something to suggest regarding event title, feel free to share with others here.

Miki

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I come to Zrenjanin in two weeks (weekend 1.-3.4.). Since ZR is close to BG, I would love to meet some of Drupal people there. We can even say a word or two about our camp.

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I vote for DrupalCamp Balkan 2011 - Host_city - because of better international visibility and recognizability and of course hint from DA.

Hm, but, if we aim higher, (are we?), then maybe Balkan Drupal Summit 2011 - Host_city will be much more appropriate name..guess this could in the beginning provide much more attention to our event and automatically gather much more people from (non Slavic language) neighborhood countries.

Regarding question about host city, I leave that to organizers - only you can really evaluate which city is the best option for event.

Bye.

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Hi Guys,
@slashrsm let us know when you have the time, it would be nice to meet.

@mariomaric DrupalCamp Balkan was not in the list of suggestions! ;) But it should be considered.

Balkan Drupal Summit should be used if we are to make this a great regional event. Title sounds really cool and it is appropriate for an event where more than one country is involved in organizing and participating in the event.

Miki

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@mikispeed I come on friday (1.4.) afternoon. I can come to BG on saturday or sunday. Will be staying until monday or tuesday.

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Long time not see. :)

Is there any feedback / progress regarding Drupal Camp / Summit (Serbia) event?!

In ZG / CRO, AFAIK, there is nothing new..

Something interesting and very much related:

http://association.drupal.org/node/1039

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Pa zdravo drugari :)

Odlicne vijesti!
Kako da mi pomognemo oko summita? Kada ce se znati vise detalja?

Pozdrav iz Sarajeva

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Drupal Balkan Summit website is launched at http://drupalbalkansummit.org.